FIANZ on the Accord
FIANZ met with part of the community in Al Fateh Mosque on Saturday 2nd August to clarify its view on the Accord.Here are the main points of the meeting from the point of view of FIANZ.
Summary:
- The Accord is the new official platform for FIANZ to make submissions to the government.
- FIANZ does not represent the whole Muslim community.
- FIANZ is engaging with the community and requesting help from everyone.
- FIANZ will go back to the government with its document in 4 months.
10. The Accord
10.10 - It is not legally binding. It is more an initiative.10.20 - FIANZ signed the Accord in its name and the 7 L.A. it represents
10.30 - FIANZ does not speak for the whole Muslim community.
10.40 - The Accord does not supress the right of communities to express their views.
10.50 - It is a living document. It can be amended and reworded.
10.60 - It is not some deal with the Zionists.
10.70 - It does not give anything to anyone and does not define any term.
10.80 - It gives us the strong opportunity to bring our definition of Islamophobia, anti-Semitism and advocate for Hate against faith.
10.90 - There are currently 7 definitions of anti-Semitism
10.100 - The Royal Commision was shutdown by the government. The Accord is now the new platform for us to submit our views to the government.
10.110 - FIANZ can withdraw from it, but what is the alternative to submit its views?
10.120 - FIANZ has requested to engage with the community
10.130 - FIANZ is calling the government to include other ethnic communities
20. Why now?
20.10 - The Jewish Council and Human Right Commission are now calling for the government to appoint an Envoy for anti-Semitism, like in Australia20.20 - The government has responded to our submissions about our issues with the accord. (10)
20.30 - The Accord is now the official platform we have to advocate for our rights, after the government shutdown the Royal Commission (20)
30. Why did we accept?
30.10 - The government responded to our submissions with this accord.We either took it or the government would pick any other Muslim organization to bring the Muslim community's view.
The government would make decisions without our input.
All the community could do, after the fact, would be public petitions!!! (30)
30.20 - We didn't want a repeat of the experience in the UK.
The Muslim Council of Britain declined the opportunity offered by the government.
It got banned from any government interaction.
An Accord still went ahead with 6 Imams and 5 Rabbis.
30.30 - In Australia, Muslim's view is not taken either.
We've mitigated the Zionists power:
We requested that the government include Dayenu (New Zealand Jews Against Occupation) in the Accord.This will reduce the influence of the Zionists in the Jews view on topics.
40. Decision making process for the Accord
40.5 - We followed the usual process for decision making, which it was a huge mistake in the case of the Accord.40.10 - We knew about the proposal in March
40.20 - We didn't have any meetings about it until end May-early June
40.30 - We had internal meetings, and
40.40 - one-on-one meetings with each association of FIANZ
50. FIANZ is changing
FIANZ Constitution changes are on the way.The constitution must be passed by 2/3 of the council.
The AGM is on the 21st August.
The community is welcome to take part in it. (40)
60. Palestine
60.10 - While Palestine is a top priority for FIANZ, we don't speak for the Palestinians.We've been facilitating their meetings with the government.
60.20 - We have been in touch with the Palestinian authority in NZ (Dr. Ahmad Saadan) coordinator of all the 8 organizations. (50)
60.30 - FIANZ is watching the media, which has improved in its covering of the events. If you don't think so, please give us evidence that it is not improving.
60.40 - One of FIANZ's report on Gaza is being used by the Palestine Foreign ministry and the Malaysian government at the international level.
70. Next steps
We have 4 months before going back to the government.FIANZ will
70.10 - Engage and consult with the community across the country
70.20 - Receive your inputs (by emails and others)
70.30 - Establish a document
70.40 - Discuss its content with the community
70.50 - Present it to the government at the end of the 4 months
70.60 - Negociate the position of the community
80. FIANZ's needs
FIANZ needs:80.10 - Help with its different projects
80.20 - Input on the definitions
80.30 - Input on how to stop the Zionists from preventing us from using verses of the Quran or narations of the prophet, that might not please them.
80.40 - Suggestion on how to improve the decision making
80.50 - Any suggestion on how to negotiate, etc...
90. The community role
The community must90.10 - Give definitions to the terms and take part in related work
90.20 - Think of a mecanism to collect feedback from the Muslim community about topics
100. Failures of the community
100.10 - Some have no knowledge whatsoever of the reports FIANZ produces on issues100.20 - Others don't read or interact on them
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Footnotes
(10) The plausible guess is that the Zionists made pressure on the government for their interests. The government came up with this response which also responds to FIANZ's raising voice.
(20) The community had done nothing to try and stop the government from shuting down the Royal Commission.
Had the community been in the know and strong enough to worry the ministers the Royal Commission would have never been shutdown and FIANZ wouldn't have needed the Accord to continue its work.
(30) Given how weak, fragmented and isolated from society we are, petitions on any Muslim-related matter might never get a number of participants significant enough to attract the attention of officials.
(40) How can the community take part in it?
(50) The Palestinians present in the meeting protested about Dr. Ahmad Saadan being the wrong person to be in touch with.
(20) The community had done nothing to try and stop the government from shuting down the Royal Commission.
Had the community been in the know and strong enough to worry the ministers the Royal Commission would have never been shutdown and FIANZ wouldn't have needed the Accord to continue its work.
(30) Given how weak, fragmented and isolated from society we are, petitions on any Muslim-related matter might never get a number of participants significant enough to attract the attention of officials.
(40) How can the community take part in it?
(50) The Palestinians present in the meeting protested about Dr. Ahmad Saadan being the wrong person to be in touch with.
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Deleteالكل كاشفكم فاقعد ساكت أحسن.
Many in the Muslim community are outraged that we have been forced—through FIANZ—to sit at the table with Zionists.
ReplyDeleteBut we often forget a fundamental principle of God's universe: we only receive what we earn and strive for (Qur'an 17:10, 41:10).
If we had:
- actively challenged the government on matters of injustice—such as the crisis in state care, the neglect of the elderly and disabled, the killing of newborns, youth bootcamps, the ongoing oppression in Palestine, the rise of privatization, ...
- truly embraced our Quranic duty to be the voice of the voiceless (Qur’an 3:110, 21:107, 57:25...);
- and built alliances within our wider society;
then politicians—including those in power—would have thought twice before ignoring our concerns.
They would not have dared to shut down the Royal Commission, nor forced us into dialogue with the enemies of humanity.
Unlike the Zionists, we pose no political threat—nor do we offer any political value.
So they disregard us. They do with us as they please.
And that, by the laws of God, is what we deserve (Qur’an 9:24).
Let this be a wake-up call. Let us finally begin to live by the Qur’an—
before the day comes when we are compelled to sit with pedophiles just to have our grievances heard.
The conflict in Palestine is not a war between Jews and Muslims.
ReplyDeleteThe facts make this clear: it is a conflict between Zionism and the peoples of the Middle East: Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, (and, when their turn comes, Jordanians and Iraqis)
who may be Jews, Christians, Muslims, Baha’is, atheists, or others.
The record also shows that Zionist forces have killed Americans, British soldiers, and peace activists from around the world. (Remember Rachel Corrie?)
And because of how Zionism treats the peoples of the region—and others beyond—it is no longer just a regional or political issue.
It has become a conflict between Zionism and the very principles of humanity:
No human being would ever accept being driven from their home, stripped of their property, or robbed of their life.
At a deeper level,
this is a confrontation between Zionism and God Himself—
God who created the human soul with an innate drive to resist oppression, to reject uprooting, dispossession, humiliation, and the denial of one’s freedom, dignity, or identity.
So,
The conflict in Palestine—and across the Middle East—is not between Jews and Muslims.
It is between Zionism and justice,
Zionism and humanity,
Zionism and God.